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Broad and Walnut

Have you seen the new SEPTA signs? I noticed this a few weeks ago; the signs in the photo here are located at Broad and Walnut Streets (the first one I spotted) but there are also posted at 13th & Market, 15th & Market, 18th & JFK, 19th & Market, and 15th & Locust.

The first thing I thought when I saw the sign was “T? Like in Boston?” but the lines of the T do look a bit like rail lines, so I guess it’s an interesting design choice.

What I like more than the huge posts are the signs on the stairwells, explaining the lines and connections that can be made at the station, and the exit orientation signs, giving directions and street intersections. Have you ever come up from the subway feeling disoriented? Well, maybe not if you’ve been riding for years, but occasional riders and tourists probably don’t know which is the northeast corner of Broad and Walnut just standing around in the concourse.

If you’ve seen the signs and have any comments about them, there is a survey for SEPTA and PATCO users to submit.

Do you think these signs will be useful? What would you do differently, or do you think the city’s had a good idea with these?

5 Comments so far

  1. Joe Smith (aaronproctor) on November 26th, 2008 @ 12:20 pm

    I’m VERY glad to see this and hope the updates expand to the suburbs. Some of the train maps at some of the R2 stations (Marcus Hook comes to mind) are AGES old – listing stops on the line that were decommissioned years ago.


  2. Andrea Piernock (andreapiernock) on November 26th, 2008 @ 2:02 pm

    Oh yes, so many signs and maps need to be updated. My favorite is this map in the concourse under Dilworth Plaza, which is probably late ’70s; you can see Reading Terminal (which has been replaced with Market East) in the map, and it’s not even connected to Penn Center/Suburban Station. The Center City Commuter Connection didn’t officially open until 1984.

    My hope is that the pilot program with the new signs and maps actually proves to be useful, and SEPTA will replace or update all the existing signs. The ‘burbs especially need the updates, with all the correct and still-open stations and connections.


  3. Joe Smith (aaronproctor) on November 26th, 2008 @ 5:07 pm

    That’s hilarious.

    It’s awesome to see an R2 map, on a train no less, still listing "Baldwin" and "Lamokin Avenue" as stops.

    As well as the ones that still show the R3 going to West Chester or the the days when the R5 would whisk you away to magical Parkesburg.

    A question I’ve had for years: Why is there not a R4?!

    – AP


  4. Joe Smith (aaronproctor) on November 26th, 2008 @ 5:10 pm

    This map you put up is HILARIOUS!

    Trainer was a stop on the R2? And what’s that between Claymont and Marcus Hook? What’s that where Prospect Park should be? Manoa or something? Never even heard of it.

    This is great.

    I wonder whatever happened to the Trainer train station. I’m curious even more.

    I (heart) SEPTA.


  5. Joe Smith (aaronproctor) on November 26th, 2008 @ 5:13 pm

    Oooh – I guess there technically is an R4, just hasn’t been commissioned and probably never will be:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEPTA_Regional_Rail#Original_route_numbering_plan



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